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Feb. 23rd, 2025 10:41 am
calzephyr: Genealogy (genealogy)
I ordered two marriage certificates this week and one of them turned out to be not my relative despite the similar name.

I feel obligated to research my not-relative's life, however. I know it was the style at the time in 1919, but dang, a 27 year old widowed man marrying a 16 year old girl has me going O.o

I'm going to assume marriage was a path to citizenship or he needed a maid/mother for the kids :S
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Mom gave me a name a couple of weeks ago and I finally got around to running it through Newspapers. I didn't clue in that it was my cousin Mary's husband. Mary is one of two children of my great-grand aunt that are still living, and once I made the connection, I opened a lot of humbling facts about my great-grand aunt N's family.

Previously, I found little personal items about N's two sons, who seems to have a few personal problems which made it into the paper. Honestly, these sound like teenage/young adult shenanigans, although I noted one son's marriage didn't last very long.

Ancestry connected some dots for me and I looked up obits in Newspapers as well. It all seems like too much information:


  • N's BIL was died at Auschwitz in 1942 :-( Judging by the obituaries, the family was Catholic, but he was living in Poland at the time. I need to find out if N's husband came to Canada before or after WW2

  • Mary's sister H had a first husband who died suddenly on December 31st. I wonder if it was a new year's eve accident :/

  • H remarried seven months later, wow!

  • Mary and her husband lost an infant son in 1955 :-(

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On our recent trip to Ontario I received some genealogical information about my husband's family. Like my own family stories, it's a jumble of names and relationships! One of his uncles mentioned "going on the computer and finding out someone had already done the work" for his maternal grandparents and it was true! It was delightful to see hubs's family tree light up like a Christmas tree. It turns out hubs is Irish (which I knew), French, Scottish and...German!

Hubs has no interest genealogy, which I think is a shame since it's always so fascinating. In one visit I learned so much more about his family than I did in 24 years of knowing him, LOL!

Ancestry did a big update recently and I'll keep checking back to see if they're still working things out. The little bit of Swedish and Welsh on Mom's side disappeared and the West Asian countries on Dad's side got lumped into Italy and the Eastern Mediterranean.

It seems like more electoral voting lists were also released or added, because suddenly I can find more of my relatives that way too, including my parents.

The voting lists are cool because a quick scan showed my maternal great-grandmother, who we'll call GV for now, was quite the busybody. Lady did not stay put for very long! It seems she lived with her youngest son and his wife from 1968-1972 and went where they went. I didn't meet her and Mom doesn't have anything nice to say about GV. Regardless, I can't imagine my MIL living with us for more than a year at most :-D
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I really need to get a genealogy icon :-D

Many people get into genealogy because knowing what your ancestors struggled with health-wise is always a bonus. For Mom's paternal side of the family, few of them lived long enough for them to experience aging! My grandfather died when he was 42.

Well, I made the connection earlier this year that gout can be hereditary. My uncle, his two sons and my brother all suffer from gout. After menopause, my gout risk will increase, so gotta make those lifestyle changes sooner than later, I suppose!
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When you hit a genealogy roadblock, there's only one thing to do--get started on other family members!

I created a family tree for a friend which I recently deleted as it was giving me his hints, but he was still amazed that his family tree could be traced back to Swiss dukes and duchesses. He started off on his own and I'm kinda happy about connecting someone to their past. The fun thing was that his family tree was well-documented, so it was easy to verify more recent names and places with him and keep going backwards.

Hubs, alas, has no interest in genealogy, or, rather doesn't feel the need to know. Well, I do, dangit! One of his cousins already did some of the pre-work on Ancestry, so it was easy to know I was on the right path. Hubs maternal grandfather's ancestors are solidly from Yorkshire, England. It goes back to the 1400s, so I'll have to research what the area's history.

Now, usually if you enter enough information into Ancestry, it starts coughing up all sorts of hints, but it's not doing so for my FIL family, even though his mother has a fairly unique name. I feel a challenge ahead, LOL!
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We out for lunch at Earl's yesterday with my family for Thanksgiving. It was nice and nothing to clean up. Since we're still not 100% after having not-COVID, Mom wanted to make it easy on me. I still plan on making dinner for hubs and myself though.

Green salad
Craisin cranberry sauce
Stovetop Stuffing (hubs loves it)
Turkey breast (in the slow cooker)
Carrots
Creamer potatoes
Buns
Cherry Jell-o and whipped cream

I have this music playing today--I've longed to write something meaningful about Granny for some died. She passed away on the same day as we were married (different year) and her funeral was on my birthday. I feel so entwined with her life for that. Genealogy has helped me understand a lot about Granny's complex life and it's on days like this when I feel closest to her--putting on a big spread for family. Granny loved her home and it was always a place to be--when I think of Thanksgiving, I think of her wrestling a big turkey in and out of the oven for decades.

It's funny, when we moved into our house, I started receiving two magazines--one was a Kraft cooking magazine and the other was Chatelaine. I never knew who subscribed me to these, but I strongly sense it was Granny. There aren't a lot of things that one can pass down when there's such a big age gap--but a sense of home is certainly one of them <3



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So this week I focused on my great-grandfather's brother Andrew. The death certificate confirmed that it was his grave I found on Billion Graves with the death date worn away. He was born in 1886 and had a lot of kids with his wife, Nancy. Nancy is on Find A Grave and has a matching headstone to his.

I used Family Search to try and find information on my great-great-grandparents family and it did cough up a record from the 1916 census that I hemmed and hawed over. The ages and names were not quite right, but it is my family. Andrew would have been 30, married and not part of the household at the time. Andrew had seven children and as always, I have loads of cousins :-D
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It seems I have made a new friend who shares the same enthusiasm for genealogy. We were almost related and I'm just relishing our notes back and forth as we share tips and more.

Today's find--my great-grandfather's brother's wife's name. Finding out women's maiden names gets a little tricky because it wasn't always mentioned in their obituary or a new article. And once again, Ancestry had the answers without me realizing it. It's also extra difficult when both sets of great-grandparents all have a Nick, John, Mary and Pauline in their family. I had to stop myself a few times and remember who was who.

Anyway, once you put in enough information into Ancestry--and I mean, a lot of information as my family tree now has 500+ people in it--it starts making better matches and up popped the right Pauline married to the right John. Once I realized she was called Polly, more potential paths appeared. I just ordered the marriage certificate, so we'll see! But if it's the right person, I'll have a whole other branch of the family to explore. I'm hoping it's my relations--a quick look at Newspapers revealed her brother spent 5 years in jail for cattle rustling, yikes!
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I guess my Genealogy Week isn't over just like this cold isn't over. The vital stats/provincial archives got back to me and I discovered that my great-grandmother was only married for two weeks before her new husband contracted some sort of virus and died. He's documented in a big local history book called Pride in Progress. The entry is so brief--he was born, worked on a farm, married my great-grandmother, died and is buried in St. Michael's.

Like the other marriage certificate, this one is mentioned on Ancestry, but my great-grandmother's last name was so mangled that never in a million years would I know it was the same person.

I only knew my great-grandmother and grandmother when they were old; it's so hard to imagine them as excited young women with their first husbands. But I think I can imagine, sometimes. Who would I be if he had lived? Would I be here? So many existential questions :-)

I also spent lunch looking up on British Columbia death certificates which are freely available online up to a certain year. It feels a little ghoulish, but they're so full of handy information like birth date, death date, location, spouse, form of burial, etc. There are some relatives I'll never find on Find A Grave because they were cremated. I won't upload the death certificates to Ancestry; that just seems like a bit much, but I did discover that one of my grandfather's brothers and my grand-great aunt's family both lived in Vernon about the same time. Wouldn't it be funny if the two groups interacted? The place where my great-uncle died is still standing as well and it's so...weird...but interesting at the same time.

Granny loved collecting obituaries and at the time I thought it was a little weird, but now I realize just like me, she was trying to organize her family tree :-)
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My genealogy spree has come to an end for now. I'm working from home Friday, but it was so fun to be fully absorbed in my ancestors while waiting out this cold.

Today I found out more about R and C's family. By using a family nickname for one of the boys, found more clippings about him and his grandson who has the same name. Mom confirmed one of the seven original boys was a funeral director. The funeral home is still operating and I found a nice portrait of him on their website. He looks like such a kind, caring man.

It sounds weird, but I feel I still have a relationship with those who have passed on. To remember is to always keep them close.

Speaking of remembering, I dug into my great-grandfather's sister's daughter's son (my 1st cousin 2x removed) as well. He died in 2013 and my only clues were someone else's family tree and a legal notice from 1977 saying three of his children would be put up for adoption if he did not respond. I was able to get the children's birthdays and names from the ad, but it bothered me greatly that I couldn't find an obituary for his wife.

It seemed like she didn't exist at all and I wondered if it was a bad mashing of metadata--it happens on Ancestry when the wrong people are connected. The other family tree alleged she died in 1982. Ancestry had no hints and I could not find an obit. I found the obits of the her brothers, nephew, and father, but none of them mentioned her name--Sylvia. Nor did her husband's obit, which is how I confirmed I had the right man; the children's names were the same names as the legal ad.

This troubled me and fortunately Family Search had a reference to her death certificate. Later today, I tried British Columbia's vital stats website and was surprised birth, marriage and death certificates could freely and easily downloaded. The available period is far more recent than Alberta's too. Sylvia's death certificate was digitized! Dang. I didn't have to pay anything at all! She died of respiratory failure at a private hospital at 45. Her husband's name matched and the claimant was one of the matching names in the legal ad.

It was humbling and sorrowful to read the form, which noted she also had rheumatoid arthritis and "organic brain syndrome", which is called neurocognitive disorder today.

This poor woman--had she been in an accident at the time of the legal ad and unable to care for her children? What happened? I found her two daughters on Facebook, but I don't want to be the ghost of the past unexpectedly entering their lives. Rest in peace Sylvia. I see you! I remember you! I care about you!
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I'm still not over this cold or feeling much better. I only had enough mental energy to trawl through Newspapers and save matching articles to Ancestry. Today I learned my great-grandfather's sister's daughter's husband (that's the husband of my 1st cousin 2x removed) was a prominent naturopathic doctor here in Calgary. He was frequently quoted in newspaper articles on nutrition, plus he was part of a public speaking club and the Cosmopolitan Club (a service organization). It's funny to think I saw his name in the paper and had no idea we were related. Had I known we had relatives here, Mom and I might have had coffee with him before he passed in 2005. My cousin passed away in 1991 alas. Their children are still alive and I'm unsure if I should reach out to them at the moment.

Ancestry's hint system coughed up a gravestone for my great-grandfather's sister, even though I searched Find A Grave pretty thoroughly. And although I looked through the provincial death indexes previously, during my second look, I found the death date I was missing for one of my great-grandfather's brothers. Find A Grave doesn't have all the graves btw--Family Search pointed me towards BillionGraves. A grave is listed that matches the name and locale, buuuuuuut the death year was worn away by time or weather. I may be spending another $5 on a death certificate to confirm it's my relative :-D
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Hubs ventured into the office last week because his American co-workers were visiting and, to say the least, they brought with them interesting germs that challenged his immune system. I tried avoiding it, but alas...at least it's not COVID.

I can barely think but I can work on my family tree. One of the things I love about Ancestry is how timelines of your ancestors lives are automagically put together and it challenges a lot of my assumptions about the past. For example, I knew my great-grand aunt (my great-grandmother's sister) was the second wife of a particularly well-known man, let's call them R and C. C's first wife died in 1937 and together they had seven boys, wow! But the timeline made my eyes pop because my great-grand aunt, who was a single mother, was 32 when she married C and he was 63. No judging, but I always assumed they were closer in age.

I dove into clippings about the seven boys and the clippings paint a picture of a very athletic, community-focused family until World War 2, when five of the boys were old enough to serve. I can't find much on the youngest brother, just that he was married, had children (marked private in Ancestry because they're still alive) and died. Who were you Melvin??? *shakes computer monitor*

The vital statistics department also got back to me fairly quickly and for $10 I now have my grandparents and great-grandparents marriage certificates. I laughed; my grandfather got his mother's middle name close, but wrong. Granny was only 18 when they married in 1941! She worked at a meatpacking plant and her husband's occupation is listed as soldier.

Now my great-grandparents...I got a lot of info for my $5! My great-grandfather's parents were named Peter and Anna and he hailed from the village of Zarubintsy, Ukraine, or Galicia as the certificate reads. Galicia no longer exists in the administrative sense. My great-grandmother was marked as a widow when they married in 1922. I wrote back to the vital statistics department to see if they can locate her first marriage certificate.

What else will I find in the future? All I can hope is future relatives appreciate my efforts :-)
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My family tree had many gains this past week, which was super exciting. After forays into my great-aunts families, and I'm unsure why, but looking at the same old data suddenly made things click. My grandfather had nine siblings, and I put extra effort into clipping all the articles I could find about them from Newspapers.com

Although there isn't a lot past 1950, there is enough to give an idea of central Alberta's rural life. My grandfather's surname isn't uncommon, but when paired with the place, it becomes easy to find family members. I had to get a little creative with my searches though as they often used their middle names as first names.

It seems my great-grandmother, my grandfather's mother, was quite the social butterfly, or at least understood the power of getting your name in the newspaper. Although my mother doesn't regard her fondly, I sense my great-grandmother had a lot of character. Whether that's good or bad, I'll let you decide :-D. But her busybody nature was a gift to the future.

I also made some gains on my grandmother's side of the family. I called Mom and we went through birth and death dates together, which really helped. Then, she confirmed the married name of one of my great-grandfather's sisters, which allowed me to link three obituaries.

My great-grandfather's side of the family is a bit of a mystery, as is his wife's. When looking at scanned documents, one is suddenly aware of the whisper space between facts.

If you're Ukrainian in a time when Ukrainians were unpopular, you might say that your family is Polish. Or maybe, you want to impress the census collector because they're a government agent and don't want to identify yourself as Ukrainian. Or maybe between the 1916 and 1930s, the borders shifted and you no longer find yourself Polish or Ukrainian according to a map.

It's really funny how statistics and records raise more questions than answers. And speaking of that...as I well know, there is no such thing as perfect records. Eventually, everyone's genealogy search ends up at the Department of Vital Statistics, and that's where I'm heading this month.

Sadly, the provincial archives consider online records simply to be scans of printouts or ledgers, which are not searchable yet. You have to guess a little, find the appropriate year and/or initial, and then scroll through giant PDFs to find your loved ones.

Earlier records, of course, are handwritten and not so easily skimmable. As Granny was born in 1923, my great-grandparents must have been married between 1920 and 1923. I searched both the lists of brides and bridegrooms but couldn't find a match.

However, that doesn't mean the record doesn't exist; I just have to ask an expert. It's super cheap to get a digital copy of a birth, marriage, or death certificate. At about $5 a scan I don't mind spending a bit of money on the wrong person :D
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I felt like digging back into Ancestry now that the 1931 Canadian census is available online.

One thing I've learned to appreciate is the Residence attribute. I always assumed Mom's family more or less stayed in one place, but her father's side loved wandering.

I found assorted addresses through Henderson's Directories and obituaries and again, residence makes sense for Mom's mother's side of the family. For example, my great-uncle Fred worked for a brewing company and their home address wasn't too far away from Inglewood, where the former Molson brewing plant and Fleischman's yeast factory are located. Nowadays we're so used to travelling for work that living close to work is less obvious.

So, that's not the mysterious part--just the mildy interesting part.

My grandfather had nine siblings and to the best of my knowledge, two of those siblings are still alive.

Let's call the sister who passed away a couple of years ago G and the sister who's presumably still alive, A.

Weddings were big news back in the day and I found a story about A's marriage to R. I dutifully clipped it and saved it to her Ancestry record.

Then, I just happened to come across G's obituary which was very detailed in regards to names (jackpot!). But wait...her first husband was listed as...R!

R's name is also presumably uncommon enough for the time; it's not like he was Robert Smith.

Whaaaaaat? Two sisters, one man? What is going on? I'm not entirely sure, but I'm intrigued!

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Feb. 4th, 2023 08:52 am
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Ancestry sent me an email earlier this week that my sample arrived at the lab in Ireland and I should have some results in 6-8 weeks.
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Genealogy is fun--and frustrating! Sometimes you make one connection that only begs for more connection.

I knew my great-great-grandmother and her family settled around Lamont, Alberta.

I found a PDF of a historical book, Dreams and Destinies, of all the families that settled in the nearby Village of Andrew and it was a flashback to growing up in Edmonton! I recognized so many family names.

Most Canadians haphazardly know Ukrainians and other Eastern Europeans came to Canada because land was given away for free. But, like most history, the exact how wasn't taught. This book gives great insight into the settlement of the area. And I did find my great-grandmother's brother's name in the book, so it gave me a family hint as well :-)

https://www.lamontcounty.ca/public/download/files/191716

Geni.com

Dec. 6th, 2022 09:25 pm
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Just a note to self to sign up for Geni.com, which I found out about from an LJer.

Apparently it's handier for European connections and I should be able to import my data. The site doesn't look very fancy, but who knows what I'll discover next?

[personal profile] steorra, have you tried this site?
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I made big leaps and gains in my family tree on Ancestry--logging over 100 relatives so far! My grandfather's American parentage is quite well fleshed out, to the point where Ancestry's black box magic auto-suggests things. It looks like my grandfather's mother's family moved West from Connecticut and his father's family is from assorted parts of England. Genealogy can usually tell you the who, when and where--it can't always tell you the how or why. So, my next questions are, how did my grandfather's parents end up in Alberta, Canada and why. My grandfather's father's side loved wandering--they were born in one place, married in another and ended dying or buried in yet a third place.

Ancestry's mapping ability isn't the most amazing, so I'm going to try turning to Google Maps. I created a new map with a layer for each side of my grandfather's family. I'll see if there's an easy way to export the data out of Ancestry so I can import it into Google Maps. This quick video shows how!



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I think there's something fascinating about having ancestors and current-day cousins in an area that no longer exists. After plunking in as many relatives as I could think of, I let Ancestry's black box magic do the work of suggesting hints and I found my relatives in another family tree. Apparently my great-great-grandparents were from Galicia which no longer exists. This helpful map from Wikipedia overlays it with modern Europe, which is perhaps where some of the confusion of their origins comes from. My great-great-grandparents and my great-grandmother were probably not up and up on shifting borders back in the day.

Looking at the map, it feels good to find a place to point at--but then, I wonder--where they from the Polish side of Galicia or the Ukrainian side? Sigh.


Location of Galicia
By CMS Green - Own work, CC BY-SA 4.0, Link


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